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I Know You Paid A Lot of Money, But It Just Doesn’t Work

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That’s pretty much what the research, and a decade of experience has shown me about using herbicides to control weeds. More about that, plus an alternative that actually works.

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“I know you probably paid a lot of money for them, but the research says that those don’t work,
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Kathy worked with the Bureau of Land Management for 12 years before founding Livestock for Landscapes in 2004. Her twelve years at the agency allowed her to pursue her goal of helping communities find ways to live profitably AND sustainably in their environment. She has been researching and working with livestock as a land management tool for over a decade. When she's not helping farmers, ranchers and land managers on-site, she writes articles, and books, and edits videos to help others turn their livestock into landscape managers.


  1. Chip Hines says:

    This article brings out the fact that good grazing management is the answer. Chemicals do more damage than good.

    Our weed problems come from continuous grazing practices. In most cases all that is needed is free grazing management, not an input.

  2. Donald says:

    Thanks, Kathy. I first felt my foot trudging through the winter mud two years ago, I’m not 20 anymore either. The only thing that helps is stretching it. My sister impressed this on me and encouraged me to “stick with the science” and as long as I do my foot is 90% better.

    As for herbicide, a Chinese Tallow infestation has bdriven us to spot spray with Tordon/2-4-D mixture. I don’t like messing with the stuff and I really didn’t like when my tongue was numb from the tiny bit of overspray I must have inhaled even though I was careful. The ewes will eat the leaves, but the trees keep growing.

    Have you worked with Cattle and Chinese Tallow? We have Pineywoods and I have seen them nibble a tiny bit on the leaves, but nothing to speak of.

    Once we put a dent in the “infestation” we will stop using the Tordon. Hopefully before I have to buy another bottle– That Stuff is EXPENSIVE!


    • Kathy Voth says:

      Hi Donald,

      Well, Chinese tallow isn’t good for cows, but apparently sheep and goats can eat it. So sorry, you are probably approaching this one in the best way possible.

      Thanks for reading and writing!


      • Donald says:

        We heard from a friend of a friend that her goats were poisoned (to death) by eating too much Chinese Tallow, but she was cutting down trees for the herd and it may have been the majority of their diet. IF a cow were to eat Chinese Tallow I could see her ingesting enough at one time to feel the effects of the toxins. Would they learn to moderate their intake and possibly benefit from small amounts of the toxin as a de-wormer like tannins in oak leaves? Researchers, where are you?

        Thanks for OnPasture!

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